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Incidentally, I have heard pilots on the Solent refer to them as cattle carriers when talking between themselves.
Now stop squabbling!
Kelvin
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I wasn't talking about individuals, I was talking about the market. And the _market_ demands balconies - that is why the ships have them, and that is why they look as they do. Ships like QV and QE are not transatlantic express passenger liners - they are cruise ships and they are optimised for cruising.
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ever been in the crew decks ? they travel also nice ?
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On a serious note: I do like old ships, as well new ships. I like the old Sietas built ships, I like it when I see a photo and I can see.. it's a Sietas ! Or with Peterswerft Wewelsfleth. You can recognize their ships. BUT - not only the old, also the new. Same with containerships: If you give them a chance, you can recognize a Odense built one, certain Korea built ones, and distinctive Mitsubishis built for Evergreen. Same with cruiseships. You can see very well difference in building Disney Magic, Aida ships.... OK I can go on, you know where I am going to :-)
I know new ships, and old ones, I have no prejudge against any of these.
I though do not like a tendency on this forum:
a) It is tolerated to call passengerships whatever names, comments with likewise text are made daily under photos.
b) It is not tolerated to do likewise with Oldies, if done so, you face a flaming and discussion gets personal.
It would be nice, if there would be more common sense, usually I simply look at photos, if I don't like, I look next, if I like or find interesting, I say something.
Also, this page here is called shipspotting.com not shipnostalgia.com. Although I like both old and new ships, and I like especially coasters and ferries, I think this site is not really one to talk only about good old times and shitty new times.
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I look at ... appreciate and "love" ALL THE SHIPS, that are eye-catching no matter they are tall ships, old-timers, middle age, today design, modern and/or futuristic creation.
To prove & confirm my statement I herewith add my YESTERDAY comment ref cruiser Carribean Princess.
I do like this ship, it is my favourite cruiser & I specially like the aft "handle" on her !!
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This is the very ship (however, my favourite cruiser) where I like the "gorgious handle" up at the aft!
PS
In my below comment I have only placed HISTORICAL FACTS about ship design in the 60s, nothing else, only a "Historical script" or "Encyclopedia".
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A more negative parameter for modern vessels is not the appearance.It's the fact that most of them are the same.Even those which are not sisterships.For example like Queen Victoria,we have Queen Elizabeth,Arcadia,Noordam etc from HAL,a few Costa vessels and a few from Carnival.The basic design is the same,only the funnel changes,the rest is almost identical.
There is no personality in each vessel,they dont make you feel as you see something unique.
Thank you again for your kind comments,best wishes for 2013!
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Incidentally, it's an awesome photo. In all this discussion We shouldn't lose sight of that fact :-)
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Wouldn’t it be good if all these moaning modern-ship haters could be automatically redirected to one of the other sites that specialise in nostalgic ships. It would be better for their own health and blood pressure in that they did not get so hot under the collar so often and it would relieve the rest of us from their incessant, tiresome stuck-in-the past bleating.
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These 'special & beautiful' designs had their cost, honestly quite high & functionally not necessary, but the shipowners at that time approved these extra costs and even boosted the designers for more new creations.
I very well know that, as became Naval Architect early 70s.
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VESSEL is international accepted 'word' and 'meaning' for "the SHIP".
Regarding to "the Ship" the expression "the Vessel" is used in all Maritime business (shipping, chartering, shipbuilding & shiprepairing, maritime law & maritime arbitration, etc).
Expression "the VESSEL" is irrefutably International & Legal accepted WORD/WORDING when refering to "the SHIP".
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1) Q/V is strictly painted in BW colour/tint (this usual black/white hull/superstructure does not make me feel
boring at all).
2) Synonym for "the Ship" is "the Vessel", and 'vessels' are round/oval/curved shaped things, NOT AT ALL rectangular things with edges e.g. like shoe box.
3) It seems that with the 'modern design' the synonym for SHIP is changing today from VESSEL to BOX or even SHOE BOX (these later expressions many people use today on this site !!).
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However, there are lots of people who get seasick looking at a paddling pool, so perhaps the more a cruise ship looks like something on dry land the safer a lot of people will feel. Who knows, if this trend goes on, perhaps the next generation of cruise ships will make people feel much safer by not going to sea at all, and just be.... er...hotels ?
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Doesn't look bad this B/W image, I think !
: The hull topsides are black & superstructure is white.
OK, I admit, only the ship's boottop & funnel are red, very nice indeed for a contrast !
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Noone can predict what future ships will look like,but a possible guess could be that they will look uglier even than todays' skyscraper vessels.
To my opinion few today-ships will be memorised by future-shipspotters.Exceptions could be Queen Mary 2,which became an instant classic unique ship and maybe (just maybe) the Disney fleet which has a retro old-liners look.
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Modern cruise style and the ship matches very well with the background, too.
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And, I'm sorry Roy, I forgot to give you my compliments for this beautiful photo!
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True,,but then,,here are no lines,,therefore rather unlikely :-)
For the beauty,,yes,, I would say,,that would be rather easy, to beat these in that aspect !!!
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Maybe in 30 years the people will say what a beauty she was compared to the then existing ships...:-D
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OH look at her lines,,,!! there are none :-(
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regd Tore
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Happy new year to all shipmates here :)
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At first I thought, that to forward right of QV is another cruiser moored sidewise in front of QV !?
:-) you are right Roy, when you cover-away by your hand the FUNNEL, the photo only looks like a seaside view with restaurants & apartment buildings along the shore side !!
Best regards & Brilliant New Year for you/Jadran
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Happy New Year.
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Regards, Rick
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Thanks for the commend,happy new year :)
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All the best, Rick
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