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Photographer:Stan Muller [View profile]Title:HDMS SOHESTEN P513 & HDMS SOHUNDEN P514Added:Oct 06, 2013
Captured:October 06, 2013IMO:UnavailableHits:7,727
Location:Antwerp, Belgium
Photo Category: Wrecks & Relics
Description:
SØLØVEN Class wrecks P513 & P514 Antwerp 06-10-2013
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Name of ship : SØHESTEN & SØHUNDEN
P510 SØLØVEN renamed 1993 ANTIGONI - renamed 2010 SFENDONI - Greece
P511 SØRIDDEREN renamed 1993 CHRISTINA - Greece
P512 SØBJØRNEN currently in Ålborg Marine museum in Denmark
P513 SØHESTEN = portside one (blue/white)called Brave Seastallion now
P514 SØHUNDEN = starboard side one (grey)
P515 SØULVEN currently in Stockholm Sweden
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Gross tonnage : 158
DWT :
Type of ship : Torpedo Boat/Fast Patrol Boat
Year of build : 1965 - 1967
Flag : Denmark (original)
Port:
Lenght: 30.33 m
Speed: 54 knots (gas turbines) - 10 knots (diesel engines)
Ex Name(s):

© Stan Muller

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http://www.navalhistory.dk/english/theships/classes/soeloeven_class%281965%29.htm




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Pennant no.:P513 & P514
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OllieG on Jan 19, 2016 13:24 (5 years ago)
Hi, I have just posted a comment next to one of the photos of these boats. It's great to see they're still in existence albeit in a pretty sorry state. My grandfather was the Technical Director at Vospers during the war up to the 1960s working alongside Peter DuCane. ALIPANDIS..wow, if you're serious about restoring these that would be amazing and would love to find out more about any plans you have. Are there any other examples of these boats existence? My Grandfather was also involved in the design of world record water-speed boats such as Miss England II. Regards, Ollie.
Stan Muller on Jan 17, 2016 15:46 (5 years ago)
Been there 17-01-16.they are still there;
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2394320
davidships on Jan 09, 2016 19:20 (5 years ago)
They were still in Labroedok in early 2014.
Stan Muller on Jan 09, 2016 18:28 (5 years ago)
located 51.233897, 4.432119.
location was/is Lobroekdock Antwerp, Slachthuislaan. I am not sure if they are still there.
ALIPANDIS on Jan 05, 2016 21:53 (5 years ago)
I am looking for Sohesten P513 and Sohunden P514 are they still in the port in Antwerp, if so I would need to know there exact position I am interested in refurbishing these vessels any information would be welcome.
Sorin Tițu on Jul 08, 2014 22:13 (7 years ago)
Man, i wish to take a ride on one of them at full speed. 54 knots
Stan Muller on Feb 16, 2014 10:24 (7 years ago)
Hi Paul, I know they are still there, but probably not for long, since a new highway / tunnel will be build there.
I know nothing about them nor can I find anything on them. perhaps here http://www.bmpt.co.uk/danish-braves_topic175.html you can find some people who know. good luck
Stan
Vosper on Feb 14, 2014 12:38 (7 years ago)
Hi "Spotters", just joined your forum. Very excited to see these two MTB's(P513 & 514). I live near where these were built in the UK Vosper's Shipyard for the Danish navy, at a place called Portchester. The other four were built under licence in Copenhagen.
Here is my question. These two photos show two very sad & poor condition MTB's in Antwerp Harbour waters. Are these MTB's still in Antwerp or have they been "rescued" and someone has repaired and refurbished these vessels?? If the MTB's are still in Antwerp, does anybody know who owns them now? I am looking to renovate an MTB and mooring it in Portsmouth UK where "Brave Borderer" & "Brave Swordsman" were operationally based for most of the time. Would these boats be for sale or are they no longer available??

Can anybody out there give me any information on the precise status of these two boats??

My e-mail is pdm_hillier@yahoo.com.sg and my mobile in Dubai is 00 971 50 558 7562

I look forward to receiving some feedback....thanks.

PAUL.
Stan Muller on Dec 27, 2013 11:43 (7 years ago)
Thanks Christian for completing the info. I have adjusted it on alle 3 photos. rgds Stan
cdsc123 on Dec 20, 2013 18:48 (7 years ago)
Sohesten is now called Brave Seastallion.
The starboard boat is Sohunden.
Soulven is in Stockholm.

Regards, Christian.
Stan Muller on Nov 21, 2013 13:38 (7 years ago)
Thanks for the information, I will adjust it in the photo detail box.

rgds Stan Muller
Hekto on Nov 19, 2013 21:37 (7 years ago)
The port one is the danish P513 Søhesten. Identified by the 'strut' on the upper part of the mast. I was serving on board as it fell off and was reinforced with the strut.
G.GYSSELS on Oct 07, 2013 12:33 (7 years ago)
Hallo Reg,
No there were not build for the Belgian Navy. And according to the info's I've got from the HMS BRAVE BORDERER she was sold on 12/04/1985 to the Haydon-Baillie Aircraft Museum for spares. HMS SWORDSMAN was laid up in 1970 or 1972 at Portsmouth. The Ships Monthly 11/1998 reported that HMS Brave Swordsman had be scrapped by H.J Pounds of Portsmouth earlier that year.
So it cannot be them,
Regards
REG on Oct 07, 2013 11:37 (7 years ago)
These look like Brave Borderer and Brave Swordsman, two MTBs built in the late 1950s for the Royal Navy. However, I cannot account for how they would have turned up in Belgium. Did Vospers build a couple more for the Royal Belgian Navy?
stuurmann on Oct 06, 2013 19:36 (7 years ago)
Dear Andy!
I think that Your version is quite real.
Danish torpedo boats of SOLOVEN-Type was projected by Vosper as combination of BRAVE-Type hull & FEROCITY-Type general construction. Similar power plant with three Proteus gas turbines (which outlets we can see on transom), but with two GM 6V71 diesel engines for economy speed. Moreover, two head hulls (P510 Soloven & P511 Soridderen) was built by Vosper.
With best regards. Stuurmann
Stan Muller on Oct 06, 2013 19:10 (7 years ago)
Hi westhaven21, thanks for your comment. I compared some pictures, but there is a clear difference in bow curve and they do not have the 3 hatches at the stern. rgds Stan
Oricine.eu on Oct 06, 2013 19:08 (7 years ago)
dont know what class the sofa is, but its not vintage IKEA
PlymouthBoy on Oct 06, 2013 18:12 (7 years ago)
I think they are Danish Søløven Class vessels, a development of the Bold Class
westhaven21 on Oct 06, 2013 17:51 (7 years ago)
they look like the sabre cutlass and scrimitar class
Stan Muller on Oct 06, 2013 17:38 (7 years ago)
Thank you stuurmann.
I searched with your info. could be be right, but the Brave Swordsman is reported to be scrapped in 1998.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070929120041/http://www.btinternet.com/~warship/Postwar/Patrol/brave.htm


rgds Stan
stuurmann on Oct 06, 2013 16:56 (7 years ago)
Dear Stan!
To my mind, this boats are former british Fast Attack (Torpedo) Crafts of BRAVE-Class, built by Vosper in 1957-1960 g.g. Namely, P1011 Brave Borderer & P1012 Brave Swordsman. But I can be wrong.
With best regards. Stuurmann.
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