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Photographer:Pedro Amaral [View profile]Title:QUEEN MARY 2, QUEEN ELIZABETH & QUEEN VICTORIAAdded:May 07, 2014
Captured:May 06, 2014IMO:9241061Hits:4,007
Location:Lisbon, Portugal
Photo Category: Cruise Ships
Description:
3 Queens in Lisbon
Vessel Identification
Name:Queen Mary 2
IMO:9241061
Flag:Bermuda
MMSI:310627000
Callsign:ZCEF6
Technical Data
Vessel type:Passengers Ship
Gross tonnage:148,528 tons
Summer DWT:19,189 tons
Length:345 m
Beam:41 m
Draught:10.4 m

Additional Information
Home port:Hamilton
Class society:Lloyd's Shipping Register
Build year:2002
AIS Information
Last known position:
47°41’41.8” N, 7°41’47.75” W
Status:Underway
Speed, course (heading):
21.4kts, 232° (229°)
Destination:
Location:Us Nyc
Arrival:23rd Sep 2018
07:45:02 UTC
Last update:
2 days 13 hours ago
Source:AIS (AirNav ShipTrax)

Port history
2018 September 9th, 06:45:07 UTCUs Nyc
2018 September 6th, 07:45:35 UTCGb Sou
2018 August 25th, 02:45:01 UTCNew York
2018 August 19th, 01:15:10 UTCSouthampton
2018 August 17th, 20:45:12 UTCHamburg
2018 August 15th, 00:15:53 UTCOslo
2018 August 14th, 02:30:35 UTCHelsingor
2018 August 11th, 22:30:28 UTCHamburg
2018 August 10th, 07:30:51 UTCSouthampton
2018 August 3rd, 02:30:41 UTCNew York
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Photo Comments (33)

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Pedro Amaral on May 19, 2014 17:49 (4 years ago)
Thank you Soren Rasmussen, you right, I was lucky to take this excellent opportunity
Regards
Pedro
Søren Rasmussen on May 18, 2014 21:07 (4 years ago)
Amazing shot! Quite a spectacular view ;-)
You certainly were on the right spot at the right time :-)
Pedro Amaral on May 14, 2014 08:24 (4 years ago)
Thank you Jdap,
Regards
Pedro
jdap on May 13, 2014 10:50 (4 years ago)
Congratulations, Pedro! Great shot! Perfect location, and perfect timing!
sandygates on May 08, 2014 15:13 (4 years ago)
The only thing that is ending is the QM2's world CRUISE. Mr Onions can call it whatever he likes but Equasis calls it a Passenger (Cruise) Ship so, as far as this site is concerned, THAT should be the end of it
Malim Sahib on May 08, 2014 15:03 (4 years ago)
I didn't realise the blog of a US merchantman was the definite word on such things, in my naivety I always presumed such things to merely be opinion.
Roy Batty on May 08, 2014 14:59 (4 years ago)
Cunard parade!
Allan RO on May 08, 2014 14:53 (4 years ago)
so there you have it - end of !!!

Allan
sandygates on May 08, 2014 14:12 (4 years ago)
James C:
I am with you 100%. We has this argumaent some years after a member had been to a laecture and was taken in by athe old PR-puff spouted by Cunard and the ship's designer. QM2 is indeed strenghtened at the sharp end so as to maintain speed in a rough North Atlantic. But these crossings are simply trans Atlantic cruises, masquerading as and harping back nostalgically to old-fashioned liner services.
Malim Sahib on May 08, 2014 13:57 (4 years ago)
The only thing I have a problem with is people out there religiously believing the hype and nonsense peddled by PR conscious cruise companies.
In my mind QM2 is a cruise ship as that is her purpose in life, nothing more.
Floating resort may be a more accurate description all told, as with a cruise ship the vessel itself is the destination and is therefore most important in the eyes of passenger (oops, I mean guests).
On the old liner runs the vessel itself was a means to an end, simply a method of transportation as an aircraft is today and by the same token which company you travelled with was decided in the same manner you would choose an airline today.
Allan RO on May 08, 2014 13:43 (4 years ago)
Essentially yes ! Canberra was designed and built as a liner and a fine example she was too. However, although popular with her cruising cliental, she was neither particularly suited to being, nor successful as, a cruise ship as her draft was too great for many ports on the typical 'cruise' ship itineraries. You clearly have something against liners, so perhaps you would be happier if QM2 would be reclassed as a passenger ferry. And perhaps cruise ships should be called floating resorts, which is considerably more polite than some of the descriptions that have appeared on SS.
Malim Sahib on May 08, 2014 13:08 (4 years ago)
A passenger liner in the traditional sense IS simply a posh name for a ferry. No matter how much you like to think otherwise, all the Cunard/White Star/CGT/US Lines ships on the North Atlantic run were effectively passenger ferries - running a liner trade - something that was their sole purpose.
Vessels engaged in a liner trade are historically referred to as liners, ergo you have passenger liners, cargo liners and pass/cargo liners like the St Helena. Certain ships engaged in liner trades today do indeed fit that description, e.g. container ships.
The hype surrounding the term 'liner' which exists in the minds of the general public is entirely media induced, concocted by shipping lines around the turn of the century and does not reflect the reality.
QM2 is merely a cruise ship (there is no such thing as a cruise liner except in the minds of the ignorant) based around a North Atlantic hull.
Once Canberra changed roles to being cruise passenger orientated in the early seventies her Master famously stated that his vessel 'had stopped being a liner and was now a cruise ship'. By your definition regarding design he would be wrong.
Pedro Amaral on May 08, 2014 13:06 (4 years ago)
Thank you Ventuari, Captain Ted and Tsarik Ruslan,
I was fortunate to be able to take advantage of this unique opportunity
Regards
Allan RO on May 08, 2014 12:52 (4 years ago)
James-C

Of course design is the most important consideration, rather than the trade. QM2 has already made over 200 liner crossings of the Atlantic. Regarding the St. Helena she is more a passenger carrying cargo ship than a liner, making her money from ferrying supplies rather than people. By your argument some of todays box-boats carrying 12 passengers might also be called liners !

Allan
Tsarik Ruslan - Ship-Photo-Roster.com on May 08, 2014 12:43 (4 years ago)
Perfect scene!!!
GreatLakesRon on May 08, 2014 12:15 (4 years ago)
I agree with the good Doctor regarding the build of the ships. I traveled on QM2's final WB trip of December, 2012 and we hit a storm so fierce even the experienced crew members were awed by the ferocity. QM2 slowed to 15 knots and finally was able to get back to speed. The floating shoebox cruise ships of today never would have handled that storm.
Malim Sahib on May 08, 2014 12:01 (4 years ago)
Allan,
I rather suspect I have a much greater idea than you have. Design does not make a liner, however the trade of a vessel does. Carnival/Cunard do not make a serious attempt to maintain a North Atlantic liner service, there are maybe dozen or two gimmick crossings for the benefit of the tourists onboard but nothing which could constitute a serious liner service. Ask yourself why did Carnival commit to the extra expense of this ship if they do no intend to use it accordingly? It's a massively expensive PR exercise - pure and simple.
The only vessel that can truthfully be called a liner that is in active service under the British flag is RMS St Helena.
Captain Ted on May 08, 2014 11:57 (4 years ago)
IMPRESSIVE shot !!!!!
ventuari on May 08, 2014 11:38 (4 years ago)
Hi Pedro. Nice shot. Real opportunity picture. What a sight. For the spotters in Southampton a superb and unique opportunity for a couple of lifetime night shots, so be ready with patience and a good and stable support...jejeje Congratulations again Pedro.
MBregards from La Palma, Canary Islands.
ventuari
Allan RO on May 08, 2014 10:56 (4 years ago)
James_C - you clearly have no idea regarding the design and build quality of a liner compared to a cruise ship. Having been to lectures by Stephen Payne, the designer of the vessel, it is very clear there are many differences in both design and build quality of a vessel that is built to plough through winter Atlantic storms at 28kts rather than one that is designed to pootle around the Caribbean or Med at 15kts.

Allan
Malim Sahib on May 08, 2014 10:31 (4 years ago)
An 'ocean liner' only in name, despite her design quirks the whole project is by and large PR bluster to give that ship a unique identity for marketing purposes.
If the entity known today as Cunard were to actively provide an Atlantic liner service then she would be a liner, a few token crossings per year don't make it so.
Allan RO on May 08, 2014 10:24 (4 years ago)
Great shot.....all three in Southampton tomorrow 9th.....unfortunately arriving around 5 in the morning and sailing 10 at night. So no great photo op. Big 10th birthday celebration for QM2 but proposed release of 10,000 balloons cancelled after pressure from green groups. But the fireworks are still on !! unless the local seagulls begin to complain.

And James, they are not sisters, QE and QV are cruise ships, QM2 is an ocean liner, NOT a cruise ship.

Allan
Pedro Amaral on May 08, 2014 09:43 (4 years ago)
Thank you Jurgen, Nissos Chios, Gaviota and MuTLu
For sue a unique photo not taken every day
Regards
Pedro
MuTLu on May 08, 2014 06:52 (4 years ago)
Excellent
Gaviota on May 07, 2014 23:27 (4 years ago)
Quite a perfect timing, how lucky you are to see it and lucky we, you were ready for us to enjoy it.
Nissos Chios on May 07, 2014 20:03 (4 years ago)
Wow,spectacular scene!
Pica on May 07, 2014 18:14 (4 years ago)
Boa foto Pedro!!!!
Fleetmates, sisterships ...? an unique shot not taken every day - in an excepcional pretty place!
Saludo Jürgen
Malim Sahib on May 07, 2014 18:04 (4 years ago)
Not sisters in the true sense of the word as they're not all of similar design. I suppose the correct term would be fleetmates, but then again 3 ships hardly constitutes a fleet.
Trygve Eriksen on May 07, 2014 18:03 (4 years ago)
Impressive. Quite an occasion, seeing these three sisters sailing together.
Malim Sahib on May 07, 2014 16:45 (4 years ago)
Is there a bug in the system, QM2s callsign hasn't been GBQM since she was flagged out to Bermuda.
Pedro Amaral on May 07, 2014 15:45 (4 years ago)
Thank you, Shaun Smith Milne
Regards
Pedro Amaral
SSM2005 on May 07, 2014 15:02 (4 years ago)
Nice shot. The Cunard fleet will be altogether in my water (Liverpool United Kingdom) next year (2015).
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