Theoxenia II - IMO 5384607
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|adenanthos on Dec 04, 2017 23:15 (2 months ago)|
|Sorry in Deutsche Handelsflotte 69/70 of course as WAGRIEN|
|davidships on Dec 04, 2017 22:10 (2 months ago)|
There is apparently a drawing of 5251628 as KELLENHUSEN in Deutsche Handelsflotte 1965 and I assume that this is the one that doesn't match the profile.
Meanwhile, this may be the answer to the problem over the date: although the registers (including the Greek one) have 1975 for the change of name, I found this in "Itzehoer Schifffahrtschronik" by Herbert Karting "In 1962, Peter Döhle, Hamburg [as in the PWR photo], was the next to manage the vessel, which sold the WAGRIEN in June 1968 to Captain Hans Kühl from Itzehoe. When in 1974 a newer ship offered for sale, which in turn received the name WAGRIEN, he sold his former one to Greece. Here it belonged to the shipping company G Karlovitz & G Papadopoulos in Piraeus, initially called THEOXENIA II"
This puts the sale in 1974. It is possible that the ship was briefly under another flag (or stayed under the German flag) before reaching Greece - or that only on arriving in Greece did the owner find that could not use the intended name THEOXENIA as there already was one, so hurriedly adding "II". Just ideas!
|adenanthos on Dec 04, 2017 17:13 (2 months ago)|
Heizer and others are indeed correct, she is TEOXENIA (II) IMO 5384607.
She has an identical profile (matching in Deutsche Handelsflotte 69/70)
Also the foto of PWR proves the same.
THEOXENIA (IMO5251628) has a very different profile !
|garry2a on Dec 04, 2017 14:54 (2 months ago)|
I have solved the mystery !
I found this morning in an old family album ,a 1974 pic of my daughter on the wharf , just in front of the ship where we can read perfectly her name on the bow : Theoxenia . As a family pic I can't add it on the site to confirm .
thanks to all for your interest about my picture
|davidships on Dec 04, 2017 12:58 (2 months ago)|
|I supose quite likely that the two trawler/cargo conversions done in Germany within a few years of each other would follow the same overall design approach.|
|miraflores on Dec 04, 2017 08:56 (2 months ago)|
@Nektarios Papadakis, my information about the history
Built in 1936 at Howaldtswerke,Deutsche Werft,Kiel/753
Wagrien-74, Hans Kühl, HH, D;
Theoxenia II-75, G. Karlovits & F. Papadopoulos, Gr; Filotheos-78;
Royal Glory SA, Pan;
Parivash-98, dto, Pan;
|Nektarios Papadakis on Dec 04, 2017 06:44 (2 months ago)|
Yes, from this angle she seems to be THEOXENIA II. But then, maybe the photo date is wrong ? THEOXENIA II was only active under that name for a short time in 1975 and quickly renamed FILOTHEOS.
|miraflores on Dec 04, 2017 06:35 (2 months ago)|
Wagrien at Fotoflight
|Nektarios Papadakis on Dec 04, 2017 06:23 (2 months ago)|
|I am not very convinced she's THEOXENIA II. She didn't have that name in 1974 when this photo was taken (she was bought, renamed and registered at Piraeus in 1975), and also the bow looks a bit different to me. Plus the name on her bow is clearly THEOXENIA (without the "II") although i know that doesn't mean anything. It would be interesting to find other photos of IMO 5251628 to clear this up...|
|davidships on Dec 03, 2017 23:18 (2 months ago)|
THEOXENIA II (IMO 5384607) does look a good match for WAGRIEN:
|heizer on Dec 03, 2017 23:13 (2 months ago)|
|heizer on Dec 03, 2017 22:57 (2 months ago)|
image shows "TheoxeniaII" ex "Wagrien" ex "kapitän Schröder" ex "Merou" ex "Frisia" , built 1936 as a Trawler for N. Ebeling of Bremerhaven.We have some photos of her as Wagrien but unfortunately no copyright.
|garry2a on Dec 03, 2017 20:46 (2 months ago)|
thank you all for your help . I took this picture 44 years ago and know only today the story of this ship.Unfortunately I didn'thave a good camera and couldn't zoom in to see her name
|Nektarios Papadakis on Dec 03, 2017 17:35 (2 months ago)|
Greek Cargo Ship THEOXENIA (IMO 5251628).
Built (1942, 545 gt) at Collingwood SB Co Shipyard, Collingwood, Canada (yard no 101) as the naval steam trawler "BAFFIN" for the Canadian Navy.
Converted to a trawler in 1947 (453 gt) and transferred to "Harbour Specialties Ltd" (UK). Re-registered at London (off. no 180775).
Converted to a Cargo Ship in 1952 (494 gt) and re-engined (1 diesel engine).Bought by "F. Osterwisch & Co KG (Germany)" and renamed "NIEDERMEHNEN" (reg. at Hamburg).
Sold to "Hans Petersen (Germany)" in 1965 and renamed "KELLENHUSEN" .
Sold to "Hans Thiessen (Germany)" in 1969 and renamed "KAIROS"
Bought in 1971 by Greek Owners.
Greek Career :
THEOXENIA (Greek Flag, Temp. Reg. at Hamburg) from 7-6-1971 to 24-12-1971. Owners : Grigorios Karlovits & Fotini Papadopoulou.
THEOXENIA (Greek Flag, reg at Piraeus - off. no 4122, B' Class) from 24-12-1971 to 6-3-1974.
THEOXENIA (Greek Flag, reg. at Kavala - off. no 5, B' Class) from 6-3-1974 to 5-11-1993.
Greek Call Sign : SV3429.
Change of Owners in 1976 : P. Koutaliangas & Co.
Change of Owners in 1982 : Kalafatakis Bros.
Deleted from the Greek Registry 5-11-1993.
Karlovits & Papadopoulos also owned THEOXENIA II, later FILOTHEOS (IMO 5384607), another former trawler converted to cargo ship (built in 1936).
Great Shot by the way ! Thank you very much !
|Yvon Perchoc on Dec 03, 2017 14:21 (2 months ago)|
Could she be THEOXENIA (IMO5251628), launched on 1942 as naval trawler and rebuilt in 1952 ? I cannot find pics after conversion.
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