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Photographer:Emmanuel.L [View profile]Title:GRANDE ROMAAdded:Aug 07, 2018
Captured:August 06, 2018IMO:9247936Hits:1,365
Location:Valletta, Malta
Photo Category: Casualties
Description:
The 44408grt vessel listing in her stbd side in a complete dry dock and with massive stern ramp lowered, maybe the dock supports collapsed when the weight of the ramp caused her to lean onto the dock side.

Note the steel props against her stbd side propping her against the dock side.
In 43 years working at the dockyard .I have never seen anything like this.
Vessel Identification
Name:Grande Roma
IMO:9247936
Flag:Italy
MMSI:247086800
Callsign:IBZI
Technical Data
Vessel type:Vehicles Carrier
Gross tonnage:44,408 tons
Summer DWT:14,254 tons

Additional Information
Home port:Palermo
Class society:Registro Italiano Navale
Build year:2003
AIS Information
Last known position:
39°38’35.96” N, 25°55’3.76” E
Status:Underway
Speed, course (heading):
12.2kts, 43° (43°)
Destination:
Location:Esbcn - Itsal
Arrival:17th Apr 2019
03:00:32 UTC
Last update:
2 days 4 hours ago
Source:AIS (AirNav ShipTrax)

Port history
2018 December 30th, 13:30:14 UTCEssag>beanr
2018 November 5th, 13:00:58 UTCItliv>frmrs
2018 October 5th, 03:00:09 UTCItcvv>itliv
2018 September 8th, 18:00:35 UTCItmnf>slkop
2018 September 8th, 18:00:15 UTCSlkop>ilhfa
2018 September 8th, 04:00:53 UTCMtmla>itmnf
2018 July 31st, 06:30:35 UTCItgit>mtmla
2018 July 24th, 16:00:22 UTCIlash>sikop
2018 July 19th, 20:30:10 UTCIlhfa>ilash
2018 July 18th, 16:00:12 UTCSikop>ilhfa
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Photo Comments (10)

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Emmanuel.L on Aug 09, 2018 02:46 (8 months ago)
Hi IACSman, for sure from your information re the GRANDE ROMA, you are more knowledgeable than most of us re the workings of this and similar vessels.So do you have a hint of what might have happened here? Some mishap must have occurred ,but what?Your comments are very much awaited and appreciated.
Thanks in anticipation and regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
IACSman on Aug 08, 2018 19:02 (8 months ago)
Ummm, not quite sure I follow you here guys. Perhaps I totally misunderstand you, but is there an opinion that these ramps can not be opened in drydock, because the ramp is "too heavy"?
I have attended PCTS / PCC's / ro-ro container vessels in drydock,far bigger and heavier than this and lowered ramps without incident. That includes two Grimaldi vessels of same similar size as this one.
Emmanuel.L on Aug 08, 2018 14:36 (8 months ago)
Yes Federico, just as you said, sometimes superintendents/supervisors don't pay heed to the more experienced man on the job with negative results, I have seen this to happen (but in a less serious than the GRANDE ROMA incident).They often look down on the man on the actual job.
regards and thanks
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Federico on Aug 08, 2018 09:23 (8 months ago)
Good morning Emmanuel, there is nothing to balance the list during the opening of the ramp. It's a very economic built ship. In normal loading conditions usually the list arrives to 4°. As soon as the ramp is on the quay the ship goes upright. I remember that many years ago I was inside a floating dock somewhere in the Mediterranean and the superintendent asked me to open the ramp for general maintenance. I showed him how to operate the ramp and then I said to do himself while I was going ashore...and the ramp was much smaller of this, only 93 tons. Some times it is necessary to remain firm on some situations where superintendents or supervisors want to do something not safe or not possible.
Emmanuel.L on Aug 07, 2018 20:20 (8 months ago)
Federico, apart from the central line of bilge blocks. other blocks are spread further to the sides from the centre.Some sort of compensation she must have when the ramp is lowered whilst the ship is afloat,maybe ballast tanks etc. but remember she was high and dry in drydock and the ramp , quite massive and offset to stbd was lowered, thus causing an imbalance to stbd.
since then the dock was refilled and the vessel righted up and the ramp raised up once again.
No comments or info was published by the company or other authorities up till now.
regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Emmanuel.L on Aug 07, 2018 20:08 (8 months ago)
Re the GRANDE ROMA incident, the only tragic incident ,that I know of, was when a ship moved in dry dock (in Malta) was on 29 may 1947 when HMS WOLFE a destroyer depot ship moved forward whilst in No.4 dock , the bilge blocks toppled forward entrapping a worker a worker who was killed and 3 others injured.
That was before the dock was enlarged in the 60s to enable large commercial vessels to dock when the RN dockyard was transferred to commercial interests.
thanks and regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Emmanuel.L on Aug 07, 2018 19:49 (8 months ago)
Well David ,the dock concrete steps permits wider ships to dock safely,I remember one bulker or tanker which had literally inches from the dock sides. This is not a warship but a flat bottomed vessel which is supposed to have adequate bottom supports, I still think that the lowering of the heavy ramp caused excessive weight on her stbd side thus causing this incident.
Happily no injuries was reported.
regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Federico on Aug 07, 2018 17:05 (8 months ago)
That class of ship has no autobalance heeling system. Shape of the hull is not the best to sit on drydock blocks. So, probably a misjudgement of the situation by the chief officer and captain.
IACSman on Aug 07, 2018 15:46 (8 months ago)
Nothing that has not been seen before. This could also be a miscalculated ballast condition, which worked fine while afloat, but not when hull is dry.
To be a little "mean", Grimaldi vessels have listed far worse before. Anyone remember "Reppublica de Genova" in Antwerp?
If the hull supports have failed, then I guess some Dockmaster has some explaining to do...
Have seen other car carriers in dock (Japan) with such list after a fire in the car decks, and they were not able to drain the fire hose water properly (clogged drain and valves).
So, this can have many causes...
davidships on Aug 07, 2018 09:27 (8 months ago)
Well caught Emmanuel.
On the previous day, afloat, she looks off-centre and very close to the dock edge on the port side. Could she have settled on a concrete step? But perhaps that would be too fundamental an error for Palumbo.
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