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Photographer:Maxi Alonso [View profile]Title:IMPRESSION BAYAdded:Apr 12, 2019
Captured:July 16, 2018IMO:9722431Hits:622
Location:River Plate Lightering Areas, Argentina
Photo Category: Bulkers built 2011-2020
Rio de La Plata Main Channel- Argentina

Vessel Identification
Name:Impression Bay
Technical Data
Vessel type:Bulk Carrier
Gross tonnage:23,300 tons
Summer DWT:37,300 tons

Additional Information
Status:In Build
Class society:Nippon Kaiji Kyokai
AIS Information
Last known position:
48°32’26.21” N, 126°20’48.62” W
Speed, course (heading):
9.9kts, 272° (270°)
Arrival:29th May 2019
15:30:52 UTC
Last update:
1 month 8 days ago
Source:AIS (AirNav ShipTrax)

Port history
2018 May 24th, 08:00:55 UTCPe Con
2018 April 16th, 06:30:57 UTCJpchb
2018 March 29th, 18:00:25 UTCCn Tag
2018 March 7th, 20:40:31 UTCNz Trg
2018 January 30th, 10:30:45 UTCJp Knd
2017 December 10th, 08:00:56 UTCUs Tiw
2017 November 23rd, 12:30:07 UTCRu Njk
2017 August 16th, 14:00:10 UTCSig Sin
2017 July 9th, 04:00:45 UTCUs_ots
2017 June 2nd, 12:00:06 UTCCn Tao
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Photo Comments (11)

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davidships on Apr 13, 2019 14:04 (3 months ago)
As you can see, the deletion nomination has been reviewed, as is our normal practice. This is not the pace to discuss deletions policy/practice. If you wish, please feel free to do so on the "Site Related" forum

@Andreas. As derek has noted, Shipspotting has no database of its own, what you see is what the data had when it closed down 4 years ago (we have never had any facility to correct or update that database). It is kept only because some members find it useful. The only realistic alternative that I am aware of is to remove it completely. But, again, please raise this on the Forum if there is another angle to this.
Andreas Spörri on Apr 13, 2019 13:44 (3 months ago)
So that means that you want to go for a strict line in the photos, but the correct tracking of the database is denied. So one more reason to switch to Flickr, there everyone is responsible for themselves, without overwhelmed admins.
And I know quite what I'm talking about, I myself have a database with the data of over 40,000 ocean-going ships, everything manually created and tracked manually, so I know what I'm talking about.
DEREK SANDS on Apr 13, 2019 13:26 (3 months ago)
Unfortunately Andreas the admins do not have access to alter the database information. The source has now expired due to the close down of Grosstonnage database.The site manager (technical) will not allow admins access in case they inadvertently alter something that would render the site compromised.This I believe is also sanctioned by the site owner. The possibility of getting another database partner was explored but nothing came of it

Andreas Spörri on Apr 13, 2019 12:56 (3 months ago)
The page standart is also that the ship data is correct, but this is absolutely not the case, in more than half of the pictures posted today, the information in the shipspotting database is not correct. Why is the standard not so vigorously enforced there? Maybe because that could mean work? Message to all ships are made by me.
Clyde Dickens on Apr 13, 2019 10:40 (3 months ago)
Site standards have criteria that can be met by members with a wide range of experience, camera gear and shipspotting locations. They provide an important element of consistent quality control for the site. In late 2015 they were subject to review with member consultation.

Compliance with site standards should be a matter of pride for all who meet them. That particularly applies to those with large albums

The site standard "12. Multiple photos: When posting multiple photos of the same vessel taken on the same Date, the submission must be restricted to a maximum of 4 photographs with a significant change of Aspect/Angle between the photographs" was developed to stop the habit of some members to upload many shots of one vessel taken on one day - presumably to merely boost the size of their album.

If the suggestion of Derek Sands to air this issue in the Forum is adopted, this Comment can be included
DEREK SANDS on Apr 13, 2019 10:10 (3 months ago)
The admins are damned if they delete and damned if they don't. I agree that this photo does not need deleting, but there are many others that do. If the site has no admins and don't forget they are volunteers, then all manner of poor photos will end up on this website. Its not easy and I speak as one who did it for years from nearly the sites inception. Mistakes are made and differences of opinion occur. The problem however is really unsolvable, as there will always be objections to deletions. Its best if this is aired in the forum and ask those that have strong opinions to make suggestions on how to solve this never ending problem.


volker1948 on Apr 13, 2019 09:59 (3 months ago)
Sometimes I feel ashamed of the admins.This site was once so great and liberal!!
Andreas Spörri on Apr 13, 2019 09:06 (3 months ago)
If the problem with good pictures to be deleted, and bad ones persist, I suggest as an alternative Flickr, there are many interested photographers
simonwp on Apr 13, 2019 07:48 (3 months ago)
If this photograph is deleted it really is nit-picking by the Admins. The angle is different to the linked photograph, 30 degrees is the standard. An excellent series of photographs, just the sort of photographs that should be on this site.
Andreas Spörri on Apr 12, 2019 21:12 (3 months ago)
Nice shots
@ Admins: Please update the Vessel Identification instead of criticizing good pictures
csaba on Apr 12, 2019 03:37 (3 months ago)
Very nice series Maxi :-)
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