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Photographer:Emmanuel.L [View profile]Title:SCENIC ECLIPSE & SALINA BAYAdded:Aug 04, 2019
Captured:August 01, 2019IMO:9797371Hits:1,180
Location:Valletta, Malta
Photo Category: Shipping
Description:
Discovery series mega yacht built especially for Arctic cruises.
registered in Malta.
built in 2019
168m x 22m.
Vessel Identification
Name:N/A
IMO:9797371
Technical Data
Vessel type:-
Length:168 m
Beam:22 m
Draught:5.5 m

Additional Information
AIS Information
Last known position:
58°54’32.64” N, 4°17’57.35” W
Status:Underway
Speed, course (heading):
15.4kts, 274° (272°)
Destination:
Location:Nl Rtm>is Rey
Arrival:14th Aug 2019
08:00:44 UTC
Last update:
9 days 17 hours ago
Source:AIS (AirNav ShipTrax)
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Photo Comments (23)

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Emmanuel.L on Aug 12, 2019 11:15 (10 days ago)
Thanks for the link Bjorn re the SCENIC ECLIPSE, most interesting.
regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Bjørn Knudsen on Aug 12, 2019 08:09 (10 days ago)
https://www.scenic.com.au/eclipse
Emmanuel.L on Aug 12, 2019 02:41 (10 days ago)
Hi rd77, I am willing to be fooled in thinking she is a cruise liner or an expensive super yacht so if any one is willing to take me (for free) as one of the 200 passengers, I am more than ready, passport ready, can pack in an hour, just drop me a line.......where shall I queue?
thanking beforehand the sponsor.
best regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
rd77 on Aug 11, 2019 11:10 (11 days ago)
Don't get fooled by all the marketing blabla from the cruise line, this is not a yacht, but simply a very expensive cruise ship. You can book individual cabins on her and she will take around 200(?) of your best mates with you. Not a yacht at all.
Emmanuel.L on Aug 10, 2019 02:49 (12 days ago)
Yes you are perfectly right Bjorn, I was not that close to her , but my friend who seen her close up at Pinto wharf where she was berthed confirms this. Incidentally he also commented on the shoddy work on her hull, for a new ship ,her hull plates does not becomes her luxurious state. He knows what he is saying having spent his working lifetime in shipbuilding/repair work.
regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Bjorn Peters on Aug 09, 2019 11:26 (13 days ago)
To me, as a mariner, I'm seeing the bridge wing maneuvering pulpit (with the lantern housing in this case) as proof of where the bridge deck is located.
Emmanuel.L on Aug 06, 2019 05:46 (16 days ago)
Hi Brett ,thanks for this info re the SCENIC ECLIPSE.Re my health I could be better and still I could be worst, so at 74 as long as I am on my feet ,I am Ok.
thanks and regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Brett Bachmann on Aug 05, 2019 22:59 (16 days ago)
Hi Emmanuel, hope you are well ? I can confirm it is correct also as per the vsl's deck plan. Best regards, Brett.
Emmanuel.L on Aug 05, 2019 21:17 (16 days ago)
I wouldn't be in Administration shoes these days, mega yachts or cruise liners , cargo ships or heavy lifters,tugs or rescue vessels or fishing related, destroyer or carrier (Japanese)? incidentally when I first posted the photo I only put the name SCENIC ECLIPSE then Administration added the name of the bunkering tanker SALINA BAY and classified the photo as "shipping", rather generic category!
regards to all guys
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)

Emmanuel.L on Aug 05, 2019 21:07 (16 days ago)
Hi Clive and Brett, you could be both right as yes the windows on the third deck are slanted forward, but still with these modern designs you never know what the designers come up with.
regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Allan RO on Aug 05, 2019 12:09 (16 days ago)
Bob is correct, it is a Passenger (cruise) ship - the fact the owners/operators describe it as a yacht is for marketing purposes. Aslo, the move to luxury niche cruising by Scenic, is following on from Viking who progressed from river to ocean cruising.
Brett Bachmann on Aug 05, 2019 08:51 (17 days ago)
@Clive u r correct.
Clive Harvey on Aug 05, 2019 08:11 (17 days ago)
csaba, I think the bridge is the third deck up from the hull. Note the windows are slanted forward - they look like bridge windows to me.
Emmanuel.L on Aug 05, 2019 02:11 (17 days ago)
Well csaba,I think that the highest ones are the bridge,better viewing, better to isolate from passengers decks etc...mind you this is my humble opinion and I could be 100% wrong ,you never know with these modern designs.
regards Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Emmanuel.L on Aug 05, 2019 02:06 (17 days ago)
I don't envy Administration job, trying to draw a line between categories has turned into a hard nut to crack,various websites give different versions, it is like taking a second opinion to a doctor's decision, once you got that different second opinion ,which one will you adhere to?
regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
csaba on Aug 04, 2019 19:46 (17 days ago)
Of all those forward facing windows, which one is the bridge?
simonwp on Aug 04, 2019 18:50 (17 days ago)
It probably is......the distinctions between large yachts and smaller cruise liners is increasingly becoming blurred. But this discussion does ask the question, how do you classify such vessels, by how they are constructed, how they are operated, or how they are marketed?????? Again, perhaps simplification of the site categories will help.
Emmanuel.L on Aug 04, 2019 16:22 (17 days ago)
Is this another "can of worms" regarding classifications?.....Administration diplomatically changed my classification from yachts to shipping. I am happy as long as they are happy. But this might resurrect once the vessel is once again photographed on her own.
regards to all
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Bob Scott on Aug 04, 2019 15:26 (17 days ago)
Equasis classifies it as "Passenger (Cruise) Ship". End of debate, I would have thought, as far as this site's categorisations are concerned.
Emmanuel.L on Aug 04, 2019 14:55 (17 days ago)
Googling SCENIC ECLIPSE andrecas directs you to her owners website which classify her as a mega discovery yacht specially designed and built for Arctic cruising ,other sister ships are to be built.
best regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
Emmanuel.L on Aug 04, 2019 14:52 (17 days ago)
That is what I thought at first Clive ,but according to reports in local papers and TV, her owners classify her as a mega yacht built especially for Arctic built especially for sailing in those waters.
best regards
Emmanuel.L.(Malta)
andrecas on Aug 04, 2019 14:20 (17 days ago)
I always associated Scenic with River cruising. With the "Eclipse" they are now into sailing the various oceans as well. Some on-line sources identify her as a "cruise" ship while the Scenic web site classify her as a "yacht"....
www.scenic.ca/ocean-cruises
Clive Harvey on Aug 04, 2019 09:51 (18 days ago)
Is this not really a very luxurious cruise ship rather than a yacht?
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