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Photographer:Gerolf Drebes [View profile]Title:AGATHONAdded:Sep 07, 2020
Captured:IMO:7006728Hits:1,893
Photo Category: Mystery Ships
Description:
Greece flag, built , gross tons
scan from an owned negative, received from Sergey Shalimov
could be Amyntas, but not yet really confirmed
Vessel Identification
Name:Agathon
IMO:7006728
Technical Data
Vessel type:General Cargo
Gross tonnage:9,981 tons
Summer DWT:15,178 tons

Additional Information
Status:Dead
Build year:1970
AIS Information
AIS information: N/A
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Photo Comments (22)

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Gerolf Drebes on Sep 27, 2020 13:44 (1 month ago)
Tony Best could be as well if you mirr0r hoirzontally as I posted it, but in the middle is still a wrong letter, myabe from an old name.
I have checked my negatives, but unfortunately I have not found it yet, too much mess in my collection.
Gerolf
DEREK SANDS on Sep 20, 2020 09:44 (2 months ago)
I did consider Tony Best, but could not find her in Pharos colours
Jim McQuarrie on Sep 19, 2020 17:18 (2 months ago)
I agree with Manfred-Also some of Derek Sand's letters are there
Manfred on Sep 19, 2020 13:54 (2 months ago)
Did anybody consider TONY BEST yet?
http://www.shipspotting.com/gallery/photo.php?lid=2218629
DEREK SANDS on Sep 19, 2020 09:59 (2 months ago)
I worked my way through this site but could not find a match
https://www.greekshippingmiracle.org/en/highlights/ships-built-for-greeks/general_cargo_ships.html
DEREK SANDS on Sep 19, 2020 09:34 (2 months ago)
I flipped the image and lightened and blew it up. 4 letters can be seen. First appears to be a P or an R but is not quite in line with the others which are O N Y
Gerolf Drebes on Sep 11, 2020 17:02 (2 months ago)
Hi Folks,
thanks for your efforts.
Unfortunately I have no idea about the date of the foto, I received the negative in Exchange with no comment about place and date.
Anyway I will have a look on the foto during the week-end. Maybe I find something new.
Meanwhile I will replace her in the mystery vessel category.
Gerolf
Gerolf
Allan RO on Sep 10, 2020 21:32 (2 months ago)
I could find no matches either, I've played about with different methods of lightening the front and the one letter is defintely a Y not a T, The N could possibly be M and then a D or an O. I tried all these combos in my database and nothing leaps out as an obvious candidate, so for me it is still an unknown.
pieter melissen on Sep 10, 2020 17:58 (2 months ago)
I have deleted my comments about the Amethyst. It does not match either. Yet I still believe that the picture should be flipped. I have done some searching for next names of the Faros ships, but nothing pops up that could match the four visible characters.
Allan RO on Sep 10, 2020 17:08 (2 months ago)
Looking again at the photo, there does seem to be a previous name under the visible letters. None of the Faros vessels were 'second hand', so I am sticking with my view that this is a former Faros vessel in the process of being renamed and at this stage should still be considered unidentified. Certainly if this were a court of law, there is not enough evidence or proof to definitively give it the name Agathon
Allan RO on Sep 10, 2020 12:48 (2 months ago)
the other problem with Agathon is that she was bombed at Basrah in 1980, and lay there until 1993 when she was towed away as the Dolphin IV to be broken up. So unless the photo was taken in the 70's it is not Agathon. Perhaps Gerolf has a rough idea of date.

Allan

Allan
adenanthos on Sep 10, 2020 12:43 (2 months ago)
The letter Y is often misinterpreted by a T in distorted photo's but also the T could be a Y for that matter.

But besides that the last 3 letters are clearly HON
Allan RO on Sep 10, 2020 12:20 (2 months ago)
sorry to disagree, but there is clearly a Y in the name, by no stretch of the imagination is it T. However on looking through my Freedoms photo database, the rope-hole above the name comes directly above the N on my photo of Amyntas, which would seem to rule this one out, as in Gerolf's photo, the same hole comes above the letter after the N. But I can not agree with Agathon simply because the letter Y is pretty clear. Of course, a date would be useful as she may be in the process of being renamed whilst still carrying the Faros funnel colours. But again I have found no fits.

Also has Gerolf inspected the negative with a magnifying glass as often some detail is lost in scanning.

Allan

Allan
Bjørn Knudsen on Sep 09, 2020 19:59 (2 months ago)
AMYNTAS - IMO 7021493
The only ship with a square derrick support between hatch 2 -3 and 4-5
???
Gerolf Drebes on Sep 09, 2020 19:29 (2 months ago)
Hi Pieter,
if you take in mind, that the letters are not properly shown on the photo (Y=T e.g.), yes I would agree with you. So let her stay under the name Agathon.
Thanks to all helping
Gerolf
pieter melissen on Sep 09, 2020 18:18 (2 months ago)
Interesting, I have brightened up the dark section were you would expect her name. It reveals four characters and perhaps the shade of an earlier name. I also thought that a horizontally flipped version of the photo could provide an answer and the name that comes up by doing that looks like ?SNY and then some possible vaguer characters. Agathon does not look an option.
adenanthos on Sep 09, 2020 14:51 (2 months ago)
I am now convinced that this is the AGATHON, last 4 letter are THON, I will put in the IMO, if better suggestion are coming up later we will change it ,

Location anyone ?
adenanthos on Sep 08, 2020 19:30 (2 months ago)
Not the ONYX, different funnel and more different details.
OceanCraft on Sep 08, 2020 16:59 (2 months ago)
We thought the image might be reversed as the sloping of the letters to the right appears to be the wrong way. We flipped the image and enhanced it. In the reveresed state, if the first black mark is ignored as it is out of position with the other letters, the second and third character are possibly N and Y. With the first character rounded top and bottom the only ship which matches in name is the ONYX IMO 6917073. We do not have a photo to confirm this.
Allan RO on Sep 08, 2020 14:22 (2 months ago)
I can only make out YN in the letters - the only Freedom that fits is Amyntas, and the vessel shown also has the Pharos funnel which fits. Could certainly do with a bit more paint.

No vessels with YM in the name fit.

Allan


Allan
3SX on Sep 08, 2020 11:52 (2 months ago)
Could be also "V" instead "Y" and 3 letters after i.e.
V***
Y***
adenanthos on Sep 07, 2020 22:33 (2 months ago)
Another mystery is the location ?
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