World Vale - IMO 8009507
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|pieter melissen on Jan 14, 2022 16:53 (2 days ago)|
|Thank you Edson, it is rather doubtful whether she ever carried any oil. There would also references in the registers to IGS systems, is she had that capability.|
|Edson de Lima Lucas on Jan 14, 2022 16:44 (2 days ago)|
The postcard is a very good aerial painting view and no signals that indicate as an OBO carrier.
This ship was one of my favorites, she visited Rio for many times for bunkering.
None travel to Brazil with crude oil.
|pieter melissen on Jan 14, 2022 15:19 (2 days ago)|
Edson ,perhaps you could post a scan of your postcard, just to clarify things even better.
this was third of the trio of 190000 DWT bulkcarriers , (actually the first, delivered in 1980 by NKK.
|Edson de Lima Lucas on Jan 14, 2022 13:54 (2 days ago)|
|This ship was very similar to ELGIN - IMO 7924944|
|pieter melissen on Jan 14, 2022 13:39 (2 days ago)|
|So Bob, that could indicate that they discovered their initial mistake. Do they make any reference to the change such as : Adapted for dry cargoes only?|
|Bob Scott on Jan 14, 2022 13:03 (2 days ago)|
|Classed as OBO in 1983-4 LR but as a bulker in the 1985-6 edition|
|pieter melissen on Jan 14, 2022 12:29 (2 days ago)|
|Bob, the first Lloyds Register in my possession in which she appears is the edition 1991-1992. She is listed there as a bulk carrier and no reference is made to any conversion.|
|pieter melissen on Jan 14, 2022 12:14 (2 days ago)|
|Cisco, that could be a proper explanation, a cargo of oil, like in the second O of OBO, does not look very likely. Perhaps she had several ballast tanks that were used for water supply as you describe. I am sure she was lacking all the additional requirements related to carrying of crude oil. So yes Bob, they all had it wrong....|
|Cisco on Jan 14, 2022 11:23 (2 days ago)|
Maybe she had OBO status on a technicality.
Possibly her regular loading port was a remote place with limited fresh water and she would keep them supplied. Mind you it would have been a long time between drinks.( In that photo water can be seen discharging port and starboard from a small manifold between 3 and 4.
That idea is not totally far fetched - BHP ships loading at Koolum(sp) Island in Western Australia used to keep the island supplied with FW.
As an aside the name suggests she was beneficially owned by World-Wide Shipping on charter to Vale of Brasil.
|pieter melissen on Jan 14, 2022 11:15 (2 days ago)|
Miramar gives a conversion date of 2005. Five years after she was renamed Obelix I.
The aerial picture on Auke Visser's shows two tiny white cranes and a couple of pipelines. Does not look like the discharging option for a fully fledged obo, and I doubt that a ship of that size would have been used for carrying caustic soda in some of the wing tanks. (like the Alcoa ships).
Besides if this would have been an OBO, she would have been hailed as the largest ship of her type ever produced, an honour now still belonging to the Romantic and the Rhetoric, both operated by Nereus.
|Cisco on Jan 14, 2022 10:12 (2 days ago)|
|The first photo at the Aukevisser site shows 'something' between #3 and #4 hatches.|
|Edson de Lima Lucas on Jan 14, 2022 02:11 (3 days ago)|
Correct Pieter !
World Vale was a pure bulk carrier since delivery.
I have a postcard with deck plans from the builders.
|Cisco on Jan 14, 2022 01:29 (3 days ago)|
|Very strange. No sign in any photo of a cargo manifold or hose handling cranes or derricks. Most odd.|
|Bjørn Knudsen on Jan 13, 2022 22:09 (3 days ago)|
|Bob Scott on Jan 13, 2022 21:36 (3 days ago)|
|Pieter: Lloyd's Register of Shipping, Lloyd's Confidential Index, Fairplay Shipping Directory (of which I was editor) and Clarkson's Bulk Carrier Register all give World Vale as a combination carrier. Are they all wrong? I think not.|
|pieter melissen on Jan 13, 2022 20:43 (3 days ago)|
|World Vale was a pure bulk carrier right from delivery and was never converted from an OBO. Miramar is wrong in this respect.|
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